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ZachHasArrived - Change the wiki's background from black to dark gray.
Rickhenrique - Deciding in regards of SiIvaGunner original tracks to be consider a meme.
Mick — split rips referencing media/other
Mick — gallery subpages
ThisGreenDingo and ironwestie are unable to attend today so I've removed their topics from it.

Spottygamester pinned a message to this channel. See all pinned messages. — 06/01/2024 23:05

  • 23:05: Pokemonfreak777: yes happy birthday joke explainer but please stay on topic pls
  • 23:05: Mick the Squirrel: i thought the topic hadnt started yet
  • 23:05: TurretBot: there isn't a topic yet we're just waiting for people to join 😭
  • 23:06: Mobbz.Co: Listen to the ads
  • 23:06: Mobbz.Co: If they say stay on topic stay on topic
  • 23:07: Spottygamester: I'm going to start with ZachHasArrived's topic first, though I don't know if they're online at the moment.
Change the wiki's background from black to dark gray
@ZachHasArrived You have the floor now.
  • 23:08: ZachHasArrived: I just thought that a dark gray background would make it easier to see some of the darker images on the wiki.
  • 23:08: ZachHasArrived: Like the KFAD2 beta portraits.
  • 23:09: TurretBot: Yeah
  • 23:09: Arthur10123: I support this
  • 23:09: Pokemonfreak777: i agree with this, but is there a mockup we can look at to see what it would look like in practice?
  • 23:09: ZachHasArrived: And Bec Noir here
Game Over (Chiptune Version) - Friday Night Funkin'
im currently in dark mode and you cant see anything but would gray help?

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6-0-0
Deciding in regards of SiIvaGunner original tracks to be consider a meme.
You have the floor now @"CogDis When?" guy.
split rips referencing media/other
List of rips referencing media/Other is an overly long list.
    • Video games (with no playlist) (194)
    • Musicals (18)
    • Web media (71)
memes (26)
KFAD (5)
series / comics / videos (18)
sites (22)
    • Comics (3)
    • Companies (73)
    • Misc (34)
This totals to ~393 subsections (give or take with the passage of time), the most subsections on any media listing subpage. Page load time, bytes, editing etc are cumbersome. We need to cut it down.
I think this would split nicely into three new subpages: Video games (with no playlist) (194), Web media (71), and Companies (73); leaving the misc section to contain only Musicals (18), Comics (3), and general misc content (34, the majority), at a more modest 55 sections.
  • 23:33: Spottygamester: I support this.
  • 23:34: Pokemonfreak777: yeah i agree with this split. actually i would even argue some of the other sections can be split further as well such as musicials
  • 23:34: Arthur10123: I support the split, and I like the proposed new subpages
  • 23:34: Spottygamester: The video games that haven't been ripped on the channel make up so much of it that it might as well be seperate at this point.
  • 23:34: TurretBot: i support this except video games getting its own subpage would be weird without a category for playlist pages with RIOR sections
  • 23:36: Mick the Squirrel: i think its to be assumed that a large portion have rior sections and you're just out of luck if you visit one and it isn't there
  • 23:36: Mick the Squirrel: interesting idea though
  • 23:36: TurretBot: i don't think so
  • 23:36: TurretBot: it was discussed a few times when LORRM was first being made
  • 23:37: Mick the Squirrel: i would support this but idk how far removed it is from my main topic. i'm allowed to expand right?
  • 23:37: TurretBot: it think it would only be like 50%-70% of them, discounting RIOR sections that only link to other lists
  • 23:38: Spottygamester: I think we could implement the proposal as is and see if we want to add video games that have been ripped to it another time.
  • 23:39: TurretBot: Would the video games subpage go under the video games section in the navbox?
  • 23:39: TurretBot: Would it make more sense for it to not be a subpage?
  • 23:40: Mick the Squirrel: it already is
  • 23:40: Pokemonfreak777: its already linked twice in the navbox under "no playlist" and "other"
  • 23:40: TurretBot: oh
  • 23:40: Pokemonfreak777: after the split it would be linked under "no playlist" only
  • 23:41: TurretBot: :Shrug:
  • 23:41: TurretBot: alright i guess
  • 23:41: Mick the Squirrel: thinking about it right now, the rips referencing media lists could be renamed to "List of rips referencing x" without the subpaging at all
  • 23:42: Spottygamester: That's a different topic though.
  • 23:42: TurretBot: I honestly agree with that. It would remove the useless superpage
  • 23:42: Mick the Squirrel: if we have extra time in this moot (likely) can we come back to this
  • 23:43: Spottygamester: Do we agree with creating the three subpages Video games (with no playlist), Web media and Companies?
  • 23:43: Spottygamester: As in, is this what you want the vote to be about?
  • 23:43: Mick the Squirrel: yes
  • 23:44: TurretBot: How will the implementation of this go
  • 23:45: Mick the Squirrel:
    • move pages
    • edit {{f}} template
    • joke explainer relinks

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6-0-0
gallery subpages
@Mick You have the floor again.
  • 23:49: Mick the Squirrel: ok i thought i wrote an intro to this one but apparently not, give me a minute
  • 23:49: Mick the Squirrel: (i have the info)
  • 23:50: Mick the Squirrel: There should be a consistent set number to the amount of images necessary for a gallery subpage.
unsubpaged
    • ssbu - 96
    • undertale - 14
    • earthbound - 24
    • wood man - 51 (2 + 10 + 39)
    • inspector gunner 2 with critic - 31
subpaged
    • april fools 2024 - 135
    • space jam charity slam - 291 (167 + 101 + 23)
    • joke explainer 7k - 49 (11 + 10 + 17 + 11)
    • JOEJOE'S BIZZAERE JOJOKE - 233
    • inspector gunner - 69
    • quality sampler - 40
    • ripmas - 69
    • volume 7 - 336
    • summer colored smiles - 67
50 images seems like a good baseline. We should not create subpages for categories though, that would make an empty category which would be stupid.
  • 23:51: TurretBot: wood man's gallery is definitely incomplete
  • 23:51: TurretBot: smash ultimately probably can't have a subpage because it's a category page
  • 23:51: Spottygamester: I never thought about making set criteria for gallery subpages, but it makes sense.
  • 23:51: TurretBot: 30 or 40 is probably fine
  • 23:53: Pokemonfreak777: yeah im not entirely sure if this would change anything, other than make quality sampler have to move their images back to the main page. most other galleries either already have a subpage or cant get a subpage because its a category
  • 23:53: TurretBot: [in reply to: TurretBot: "smash ultimately probably can't have a subpage because..."] (the subpage would also be a category page)
  • 23:55: Mick the Squirrel: this is minor but still a form of consistency
  • 23:55: TurretBot: i also don't really agree with april fools 2024 having a gallery subpage that's just the thumbnails of all the videos anyway tbh
  • 23:55: TurretBot: that's offtopic
  • 23:55: Mick the Squirrel: forgot about that
  • 23:57: Mick the Squirrel: ok neither events nor categories should have gallery subpages
  • 23:57: TurretBot: having a set rule for this would also technically effect art folders (even though they're basically only galleries anyway)
  • 23:57: TurretBot: i think you should just move wood man to a subpage and not enact an official ruling that applies globally to all pages
  • 23:58: TurretBot: wood man's page is extremely incomplete, that's probably the only reason that there isn't a gallery subpage
  • 23:58: Mick the Squirrel: could be restrained to character and album pages
  • 23:59: Arthur10123: [in reply to: Mick the Squirrel: "ok neither events nor categories should have..."] no events? even the Charity SLAM! ?
  • 23:59: Pokemonfreak777: [in reply to: Mick the Squirrel: "ok neither events nor categories should have..."] i kinda disagree with events not getting gallery subpages. sure for april fools it is just a bunch of thumbnails but theyre all unique and take up a lot of space on the actual page
  • 23:59: Mick the Squirrel: knew i should have written this out further
  • 0:01: Mick the Squirrel: case-by-case basis on event pages
    • slam edits were effectively a subjoke during the charity and are in the hundreds so they deserve a subpage - even with shrinking they are still long
    • mario thumbs were much lower in quantity, and are shrunk in size on that page specifically
  • 0:02: TurretBot: i dont think the thumbnails need to be listed out at all tbh, it's literally just the list of rips but again
the charity slam page has a similar problem, but at least with rip images it makes a little more sense
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