SiIvaGunner Wiki:Meme discussion/Log/23rd: Theme of Eastern Story
Theme of Eastern Story is the core leitmotif of the Touhou Project franchise, being utilised as early as Touhou 6: the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil if not earlier.
It is to Touhou Project what Once Upon a Time is to Undertale, and as we all know that is no longer considered a meme either.
Unlike most other Touhou Project memes, which each have either specific usage trends, character associations etc. This is a case of a song representing the series as a whole.
Touhou Project is already a meme on the SiIvaGunner channel, therefore I believe Theme of Eastern Story should be revoked of meme status.
However it is important to note that the song is technically not a frequently ripped track, due to being a letimotif used in many differently titled songs in the franchise. But this is kind of dumb because Ground Theme has it's different instances in different games all listed in Category:Ground Theme!
So, this page should:
- Have it's meme status revoked
- Be changed to a Frequently Ripped Track
- Category:Theme of Eastern Story should be created to resemble Category:Ground Theme
- Category:Rips featuring Theme of Eastern Story will be removed.
see this section of the page? this should be its own page (Category:Theme of Eastern Story)
If that part does pass, are we just gonna pretend that "Theme of Eastern Story" doesn't have a page we can easily put that category on?
Theme of Eastern Story is the core leitmotif of the Touhou Project franchise, being utilised as early as Touhou 6: the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil if not earlier.
It is to Touhou Project what Once Upon a Time is to Undertale, and as we all know that is no longer considered a meme either.
Unlike most other Touhou Project memes, which each have either specific usage trends, character associations etc. This is a case of a song representing the series as a whole.
Touhou Project is already a meme on the SiIvaGunner channel, therefore I believe Theme of Eastern Story should be revoked of meme status.
However it is important to note that the song is technically not a frequently ripped track, due to being a letimotif used in many differently titled songs in the franchise. But this is kind of dumb because Ground Theme has it's different instances in different games all listed in Category:Ground Theme!
So, this page should:
- Have it's meme status revoked
- Be changed to a Frequently Ripped Track
- Category:Theme of Eastern Story should be created to resemble Category:Ground Theme
- Category:Rips featuring Theme of Eastern Story will be removed.
see this section of the page? this should be its own page (Category:Theme of Eastern Story)
btw , as since I don't think it has a major relevancy with othe tracks
at least others makes sense, this one doesn't feel like a good fit
are you sure it wont cause issues with lists
I checked the category and it's only 30 rips.
Anyone getting that "I'm Blue" nostalgia?
i mean, i dont feel that "Frequently Ripped Track" is a fitting descriptor for this, it works for ground theme as the different instances very much so sound similar and have similar structures, whereas for the cases in which theme of eastern story is used in other touhou tracks it's different. (and some of which only have short quotes of the leitmotif)
also there being no rips of the track itself definitely makes me think that it shouldnt qualify for being classed as "frequently ripped"
i dont even know if i can vote or if there's like a process for this but that's my thoughts lmao
i mean, i dont feel that "Frequently Ripped Track" is a fitting descriptor for this, it works for ground theme as the different instances very much so sound similar and have similar structures, whereas for the cases in which theme of eastern story is used in other touhou tracks it's different. (and some of which only have short quotes of the leitmotif)
also there being no rips of the track itself definitely makes me think that it shouldnt qualify for being classed as "frequently ripped"
This is a good point, id recommend proposing it be removed as a FRT after this proposal so we can gage that aspect seperately. I mainly did it due to there being a precedent with other odd FRTs
just leave that so it can get changed down the line with the rest of that stuff yea
it's weird because it is definitely a notable part of siiva history, but it doesnt fit as a meme or a frt which i guess is a failing of the existing categories
i think the solution is to keep making rips that quote this leitmotif until it counts as a meme :)
i have never thought about theme of eastern story as being notable to siiva to be honest
i'd argue once upon a time is notable too, sure it isnt as notable as main jokes but it's a motif that has been used a ton across the entire channel's history and one that has stood the test of time
sure, it's not a meme but that doesnt mean it isnt something that's worth taking note of
its a motif that carries similar weight, and deltarune even uses once upon a time too so having a motif based frequently ripped track across multiple games even has a precedent
Oops I forgot to close this:
87.5 %
- me
- eden
- bruno
- Fezaki
- Stump
- coolguy
- Arthur101
12.5 %
- Navag8r
Summary: Approved
i'll do all the archive stuff some time later this week i have a lot on soon