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February 20, 2025
19:12 MSL925 the fox

Wanna make proposal for this since I attempted to do category for him, however fell through cause forgot to ask / do discussion on the matter so thought would share my thoughts on the manner surrounding why he should have his own "Rips featuring" category

Basically boils down to how there is clearly enough rips that feature the character himself (29 according to <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoiVQSDpaOMyeZuA19PQSIzua0FuJgp0R">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoiVQSDpaOMyeZuA19PQSIzua0FuJgp0R</a>) and the former sections about appearances of him on "Main Theme (Alternate) - e" being very large to where might be easier to just have it be a category. I intend this category to more function like what we have for things such as Mr Rental where it's the character and not just like "e" and "mega man", hence why rips like "Patient (Unused) (PAL Version) - Homestuck" won't be counted here.

19:18 Eden342

yeah definitely

19:23 Overcast07

He's already considered to be a character on the wiki, and in this specific case it seems like we already have a single list of rips referencing him that isn't duplicated anywhere

19:24 Overcast07

Do we normally have these categories for characters? We don't have one for the joke explainer even though she's inherently a love live reference

19:25 MSL925 the fox

yeah not sure how exactly it works since characters like Mr Rental as i mention have one Category:Rips featuring Mr Rental

19:34 Brunocoolgamers

i think characters should have categorys imo but thats probably more of a moot thing

19:35 Eden342

There are a lot of characters with "Rips featuring…" categories.

19:35 Overcast07

I feel like the usage of original characters in siiva lore videos is not really the same as the way memes are normally used in rips, so maybe it should be a distinct thing

19:36 Brunocoolgamers

2b could have category

19:36 Brunocoolgamers

if that doesnt exsist yet idk

19:54 Rickhenrique

Yep, definitely should be a meme character

22:57 ThisGreenDingo

Yeah

23:06 Arthur10123

yeah sure

23:14 Notascryptic

per alll

Overcast07

I feel like the usage of original characters in siiva lore videos is not really the same as the way memes are normally used in rips, so maybe it should be a distinct thing

01:03 TurretBot

i agree

01:20 ThisGreenDingo

Ive revoked my vote because hes kind of a fusion of two memes

01:21 ThisGreenDingo

Mega Man and e (eulers number)

01:21 ThisGreenDingo

Not sure if counting him as a meme makes sense

01:42 MSL925 the fox

yeah i totally get why he isn't a meme himself

01:59 CorbCreates

The relationship between The Numberphile and e (eulers number) is very weird bc The Numberphile spawned as a joke character from e, but grew to become larger than the meme itself. If anything e is a "theme song" (for lack of better phrase) for The Numberphile similar to Noble Haltmann for Haltmann or Magalor's Shoppe for The Joke Explainer 7000

02:00 CorbCreates

his relationship to Mega Man is not as closely tied as e so it can mostly remain a note on his page rather than something to take into account for categorization

02:30 ThisGreenDingo

I will as long as the relationship between Mega Man and e (eulers number) is treated with nuance

CorbCreates

The relationship between The Numberphile and e (eulers number) is very weird bc The Numberphile spawned as a joke character from e, but grew to become larger than the meme itself. If anything e is a "theme song" (for lack of better phrase) for The Numberphile similar to Noble Haltmann for Haltmann or Magalor's Shoppe for The Joke Explainer 7000

05:51 ThisGreenDingo

Kind of treated like this

February 24, 2025
21:45 ThisGreenDingo

Revoking vote again, something about this feels off

MSL925 the fox

Wanna make proposal for this since I attempted to do category for him, however fell through cause forgot to ask / do discussion on the matter so thought would share my thoughts on the manner surrounding why he should have his own "Rips featuring" category

Basically boils down to how there is clearly enough rips that feature the character himself (29 according to <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoiVQSDpaOMyeZuA19PQSIzua0FuJgp0R">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoiVQSDpaOMyeZuA19PQSIzua0FuJgp0R</a>) and the former sections about appearances of him on "Main Theme (Alternate) - e" being very large to where might be easier to just have it be a category. I intend this category to more function like what we have for things such as Mr Rental where it's the character and not just like "e" and "mega man", hence why rips like "Patient (Unused) (PAL Version) - Homestuck" won't be counted here.

01:49 CorbCreates

by the way you can vote for your own proposal if you are in support of it

February 26, 2025
21:19 CorbCreates

I will vote because in a vacuum, The Numberphile is definitely worthy of a meme category. However, I think that we should consider consolidating all information into a single page (probably the "The Numberphile" character page) that goes over the history of both "e (Euler's number)" and how The Numberphile spawned from it, and how The Numberphile became a part of e intersects omega

21:24 Eden342

e should keep its own page no matter what imo

21:28 CorbCreates

they are all so closely related it would probably be easiest to have it all on one page

21:29 CorbCreates

euler's number spawned a character based off the meme, who is now used often with the meme

21:29 Eden342

it had presence before that character

21:30 CorbCreates

yes

21:30 Eden342

u probably want mega man cut too

21:30 CorbCreates

no the relation to mega man is not close enough for it to matter

21:31 CorbCreates

a list of rips featuring both jokes near each other would be useful though

21:31 Eden342

then just have that on the numberphile category

21:31 Eden342

and keep mega man and e’s page

21:32 CorbCreates

I'm just saying we should consider the consolidation

21:32 CorbCreates

for the future

21:43 TurretBot

e wasn't even a meme until season 8 when he was the numberphile

23:01 ThisGreenDingo

Numberphile is kind of just the next evolution of the original e meme i dont really think they’re seperate

23:01 ThisGreenDingo

This is kind of like

23:01 ThisGreenDingo

7 GRAND DAD and Grand Dad (Character) logic

23:02 ThisGreenDingo

Ive put those down on the grand dad proposal for now but i think a followup proposal will be if we consider 7 GRAND DAD and Grand Dad to basically be the same thing really cuz some people call him 7 Grand Dad anyways

23:06 ThisGreenDingo

Like if say sonic the hedgehog was a meme on siiva would you count the game sonic the hedgehog as a seperate meme even tho the two go hand in hand

00:03 Mick the Squirrel

ing for now just so it doesn't have to be proposed again, in a vacuum a category for these appearances is warranted.

An eventual bulk category re-sorting/naming should happen in the future, distinctly sorting out and rectifying any issues on distinction between whether a category should be for a meme, character, or both.

00:06 MSL925 the fox

So far 7

00:07 Mick the Squirrel

you can support your own posts too

MSL925 the fox

So far 7

00:08 Mick the Squirrel

thatd be 8 if this message counts

00:08 MSL925 the fox

Yeah sure

00:08 MSL925 the fox

Yeah sure

00:08 MSL925 the fox

Yeah sure

00:08 MSL925 the fox

Yeah sure

00:08 MSL925 the fox

Yeah sure

00:08 MSL925 the fox

Yeah sure

00:08 MSL925 the fox

Yeah sure

00:08 MSL925 the fox

Yeah sure

00:08 MSL925 the fox

Yeah sure

00:08 MSL925 the fox

Yeah sure

00:08 MSL925 the fox

Yeah sure

00:08 MSL925 the fox

Oh wtf

00:09 Mick the Squirrel

Yeah sure

00:09 Mick the Squirrel

discord being silly i assume...

00:09 CorbCreates

these will be going in the meme proposal log

00:09 MSL925 the fox

Yeah

00:14 TurretBot

Yeah sure

00:27 ThisGreenDingo

I support this completely btw

00:27 ThisGreenDingo

Plz bring it to a moot

February 28, 2025
08:44 Ironwestie

Final tally:

(100% - 8/8)

  • msl925_2 (Miles)
  • N / Eden342
  • brunocoolgamers
  • Rickhenrique
  • Arthur101
  • Notascryptic
  • Corb
  • Mick

Summary: We will create a meme category for the character The numberphile. Result: Approved.

March 1, 2025
17:58 Ironwestie

[CLOSED] Discussion The Numberphile being a meme on the channel


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