SiIvaGunner Wiki:Meme discussion/Log/14th: Tobalphinehhpoop
"Tobalphinehhpoop" refers to a specific group of sources which nominally consists of the following:
- Tobuscus ("I CAN SWING MY SWORD!", "NUGGET in a BISCUIT!!", "Subscribe!" jingle, etc.),
- "Be an Alpha" from ZOMBIES: The Re-Animated Series, which is also a meme on VvvvvaVvvvvvr,
- the soundfont of Phineas and Ferb games for the Nintendo DS,
- the internet meme "EHHHHHHH EH EH EH", and
- "Music That Makes You Poop" by Musical Magician.
these 5 disparate sources, which otherwise have no relation to one another, have been used together as a group in several rips on SiIvaGunner. they first appeared in "2 STUD INVASION - REGRETEVATOR" in October 2024, and have continued to appear in rips since then, including medleys. the group was initially only featured in rips by Heboyi, but others have used it since it gained popularity. rips related to the group don't always contain all members (Tobuscus, "Be an Alpha", and Phineas and Ferb in particular appear more consistently), but the main idea of the group still remains throughout all of the rips.
the name "Tobalphinehhpoop" has been used officially in "SiIva Direct 12.19.2024" and a few album tracks: "THIS IS VANILLA LAKE IF IT WAS TOBALPHINEHH-POOP š" (Thickmas), "The Tobalphinehhpooppet", "tobalphinehh poopshrooms help idk", and "Mad Poo Mewbuscus and the Alphinehh's Curse" (Volume Nightfall). the cover of Volume Nightfall also references the 5 members of the group.
I believe this group of sources has become notable enough to be considered a meme. for a rip to be considered as featuring the meme, I propose that it must feature at least 3 of the sources listed above, which would make 29 related rips as of now.
playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMrHVnRF3VkqOtcxDaZc0ceXSLvwlP85o
I think music that makes you poop could be consideread for a page on its own later but we will see
I think after this (and apple jeans) magolor shoppe is the last major season 8 meme left
Should be a rips referencing category, similar to Athletic Doctor, Wii Shop Bling, and Triple-Q, which also comprise of rips featuring multiple sources together that do not count individually. This also means it won't have a dedicated page. While Athletic Doctor and Triple-Q obviously have non-meme pages, in the case of Wii Shop Bling, the page Wii Shop Bling was redirected to Main Theme - Wii Shop Channel. I would normally suggest that Tobalphinehhpoop redirect to 2 STUD INVASION - REGRETEVATOR, but Heboyi said the rip was fasttracked and isn't actually the first Tobalphinehhpoop rip. It's still probably the best option unless Heboyi wants to say which rip was the actual first, but I will suggest alternatively that if the Tobuscus meme proposal passes, we could redirect it there, since Tobalphinehhpoop will probably have to be discussed there in some capacity no matter what.
I disagree beacuse the sources are not referencing a spefic rip so it makes no sense to link it all to 1 rip
i disagree as well, none of the tobalphinehhpoop rips reference 2 STUD INVASION itself
i disagree as well, none of the tobalphinehhpoop rips reference 2 STUD INVASION itself
I could maybe see it redirecting to a Tobuscus page, but by the rules described above, referencing Tobuscus is not required for a rip to count
letās move āRips featuring Meet the Flintstonesā to āRips referencing A Wild Fred Flintstone Appeared!ā
"Tobalphinehhpoop" refers to a specific group of sources which nominally consists of the following:
- Tobuscus ("I CAN SWING MY SWORD!", "NUGGET in a BISCUIT!!", "Subscribe!" jingle, etc.),
- "Be an Alpha" from ZOMBIES: The Re-Animated Series, which is also a meme on VvvvvaVvvvvvr,
- the soundfont of Phineas and Ferb games for the Nintendo DS,
- the internet meme "EHHHHHHH EH EH EH", and
- "Music That Makes You Poop" by Musical Magician.
these 5 disparate sources, which otherwise have no relation to one another, have been used together as a group in several rips on SiIvaGunner. they first appeared in "2 STUD INVASION - REGRETEVATOR" in October 2024, and have continued to appear in rips since then, including medleys. the group was initially only featured in rips by Heboyi, but others have used it since it gained popularity. rips related to the group don't always contain all members (Tobuscus, "Be an Alpha", and Phineas and Ferb in particular appear more consistently), but the main idea of the group still remains throughout all of the rips.
the name "Tobalphinehhpoop" has been used officially in "SiIva Direct 12.19.2024" and a few album tracks: "THIS IS VANILLA LAKE IF IT WAS TOBALPHINEHH-POOP š" (Thickmas), "The Tobalphinehhpooppet", "tobalphinehh poopshrooms help idk", and "Mad Poo Mewbuscus and the Alphinehh's Curse" (Volume Nightfall). the cover of Volume Nightfall also references the 5 members of the group.
I believe this group of sources has become notable enough to be considered a meme. for a rip to be considered as featuring the meme, I propose that it must feature at least 3 of the sources listed above, which would make 29 related rips as of now.
playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMrHVnRF3VkqOtcxDaZc0ceXSLvwlP85o
(note: also the soundfont of phineas and ferb ride again, shared between both games)
i may be wrong but isnāt it used in a couple of other disney games?
(note: also the soundfont of phineas and ferb ride again, shared between both games)
there was a third Phineas and Ferb DS game too wow <a href="https://youtu.be/i8qliPdGWo0">https://youtu.be/i8qliPdGWo0</a>
I could maybe see it redirecting to a Tobuscus page, but by the rules described above, referencing Tobuscus is not required for a rip to count
I said this already in the tobuscus thread but for all intents and purposes phineas and ferb ds, even if it was used on its own is effectively a tobuscus subsource in my opinion since he is the face of this trend of rips, most if not all revolve around him centrally and he's the only one to get isolated solo rips alongside the rise of the multisource rips. others have said this opinion is too radical but I still believe it as of now. while the multisource rips can be notable enough to have their own category in terms of articles it feels like typical submeme that can easily be merged with the parent meme
I said this already in the tobuscus thread but for all intents and purposes phineas and ferb ds, even if it was used on its own is effectively a tobuscus subsource in my opinion since he is the face of this trend of rips, most if not all revolve around him centrally and he's the only one to get isolated solo rips alongside the rise of the multisource rips. others have said this opinion is too radical but I still believe it as of now. while the multisource rips can be notable enough to have their own category in terms of articles it feels like typical submeme that can easily be merged with the parent meme
be an alpha has also gotten quite a few solo rips/rips with other jokes that arent pop alpha so this doesnt really work
I said this already in the tobuscus thread but for all intents and purposes phineas and ferb ds, even if it was used on its own is effectively a tobuscus subsource in my opinion since he is the face of this trend of rips, most if not all revolve around him centrally and he's the only one to get isolated solo rips alongside the rise of the multisource rips. others have said this opinion is too radical but I still believe it as of now. while the multisource rips can be notable enough to have their own category in terms of articles it feels like typical submeme that can easily be merged with the parent meme
i like the cutoff at three though because if the cutoff was two it would retroactively include a rip that came out before even 2stud
there was a third Phineas and Ferb DS game too wow <a href="https://youtu.be/i8qliPdGWo0">https://youtu.be/i8qliPdGWo0</a>
Should be a rips referencing category, similar to Athletic Doctor, Wii Shop Bling, and Triple-Q, which also comprise of rips featuring multiple sources together that do not count individually. This also means it won't have a dedicated page. While Athletic Doctor and Triple-Q obviously have non-meme pages, in the case of Wii Shop Bling, the page Wii Shop Bling was redirected to Main Theme - Wii Shop Channel. I would normally suggest that Tobalphinehhpoop redirect to 2 STUD INVASION - REGRETEVATOR, but Heboyi said the rip was fasttracked and isn't actually the first Tobalphinehhpoop rip. It's still probably the best option unless Heboyi wants to say which rip was the actual first, but I will suggest alternatively that if the Tobuscus meme proposal passes, we could redirect it there, since Tobalphinehhpoop will probably have to be discussed there in some capacity no matter what.
Same, I was thinking in the same way
I know that the other sources is just featured together more than the usual, but honestly, it should be a rips referencing category than really featuring
Of course it's bad to conider redirecting to 2 STUD INVASION, but it's better than fusing all the sources together for this
Why we except in regards of this pairing in specific? Few of the rips doesn't even have all of them together as well
I do not like linking back to 2 STUD INVASION especially if the joke is the pairing and not the "original" use on the channel
yeah but the joke is not 2 STUD INVASION so i dont think it should be on that page really
Parings dont have to reference a spefic rip and can reference the paring itself
Parings dont have to reference a spefic rip and can reference the paring itself
Notice how all the album tracks reference the sources being used instead of referencing the rip
yeah, but we usually says from their first pairing usage
...honestly, we don't even know much about this "meme pairing" in specific, it just existed like with others
Its a solo meme in my eyes but options a is a trillion times better than linkg it to the 1 rip
...honestly, we don't even know much about this "meme pairing" in specific, it just existed like with others
yeah but it's not a defined meme like with others others normally have sources for their pairing or their origins (aside of the lost media ones) but we don't know much of this pairing other than it's first usage and the sources associated with; again, it should've been best if it was separated memes + "Rips referencing" category
I said this already in the tobuscus thread but for all intents and purposes phineas and ferb ds, even if it was used on its own is effectively a tobuscus subsource in my opinion since he is the face of this trend of rips, most if not all revolve around him centrally and he's the only one to get isolated solo rips alongside the rise of the multisource rips. others have said this opinion is too radical but I still believe it as of now. while the multisource rips can be notable enough to have their own category in terms of articles it feels like typical submeme that can easily be merged with the parent meme
I guess to explain this in another way if the proposal passes as written and a phineas and ferb ds solo rip was uploaded, it would not be counted despite media literacy making a rather obvious connection between it and the rest of this trend of rips. it's all one trend, including the toby solo rips too. this isn't really addressed categorically by making it rips referencing instead of rips featuring but at least in terms of the article text, having a single article would make more sense than having two so i think that one has to be a submeme of the other and while you could maybe argue that toby solo rips are the subsource of tobalpha, since toby is the face of the trend i think tobalpha is the submeme.
and rips referencing makes more sense as the category name since the category contents are more similar to the other rips referencing categories in scope.
i don't really think there's a perfect categorical solution since while P&F DS would be pretty obvious, eh ehh ehh is a pre existing internet meme and BAA is a vavr meme. even if those are reconcilable, MTMYP could probably have a case for being its own meme that predates this entire trend so the only thing we could really do is https://discord.com/channels/787504555763826738/795823197185900574/1341895013709381642 and that's probably too stupid
yeah but it's not a defined meme like with others others normally have sources for their pairing or their origins (aside of the lost media ones) but we don't know much of this pairing other than it's first usage and the sources associated with; again, it should've been best if it was separated memes + "Rips referencing" category
if anything it not having a concrete origin besides being something funny to include together makes it more of a meme than half of what we consider memes
yeah but it's not a defined meme like with others others normally have sources for their pairing or their origins (aside of the lost media ones) but we don't know much of this pairing other than it's first usage and the sources associated with; again, it should've been best if it was separated memes + "Rips referencing" category
I guess to explain this in another way if the proposal passes as written and a phineas and ferb ds solo rip was uploaded, it would not be counted despite media literacy making a rather obvious connection between it and the rest of this trend of rips. it's all one trend, including the toby solo rips too. this isn't really addressed categorically by making it rips referencing instead of rips featuring but at least in terms of the article text, having a single article would make more sense than having two so i think that one has to be a submeme of the other and while you could maybe argue that toby solo rips are the subsource of tobalpha, since toby is the face of the trend i think tobalpha is the submeme.
and rips referencing makes more sense as the category name since the category contents are more similar to the other rips referencing categories in scope.
i don't really think there's a perfect categorical solution since while P&F DS would be pretty obvious, eh ehh ehh is a pre existing internet meme and BAA is a vavr meme. even if those are reconcilable, MTMYP could probably have a case for being its own meme that predates this entire trend so the only thing we could really do is https://discord.com/channels/787504555763826738/795823197185900574/1341895013709381642 and that's probably too stupid
I guess to explain this in another way if the proposal passes as written and a phineas and ferb ds solo rip was uploaded, it would not be counted despite media literacy making a rather obvious connection between it and the rest of this trend of rips. it's all one trend, including the toby solo rips too. this isn't really addressed categorically by making it rips referencing instead of rips featuring but at least in terms of the article text, having a single article would make more sense than having two so i think that one has to be a submeme of the other and while you could maybe argue that toby solo rips are the subsource of tobalpha, since toby is the face of the trend i think tobalpha is the submeme.
and rips referencing makes more sense as the category name since the category contents are more similar to the other rips referencing categories in scope.
i don't really think there's a perfect categorical solution since while P&F DS would be pretty obvious, eh ehh ehh is a pre existing internet meme and BAA is a vavr meme. even if those are reconcilable, MTMYP could probably have a case for being its own meme that predates this entire trend so the only thing we could really do is https://discord.com/channels/787504555763826738/795823197185900574/1341895013709381642 and that's probably too stupid
if you want tobuscus to be a submeme of tobalphinehhpoop:
- vote support on this proposal to create this meme page
- Propose that tobuscus should be moved to be a submeme of tobalphinehhpoop
This wouldnt work beacuse it would make some stuff retroctably part of this
we can just exclude those rips like we do for rip featuring jontron WHAT before gegagedi
i said the opposite is better
but still I will argue that if you want it to be a submeme then vote for this to get a page then propose it to become a subcategory
this is only because restructure SUCKS and should never be used
why did you become spamton
Wiki code lmfao
but uhh yeah im gonna because this is an obvious trend of rips referencing a single idea with the primary inspiration being the fact that the idea received rips on the channel previously
i kinda wish this waited until we got the results of tobuscus because if hes becoming his own meme then i would have to agree w turret
it seems they want toby to have his own presence on the channel beyond also being the core of this so it would make sense but im also split because the trend for this specifically is big
i totally missed that sentence lmao mb
to be completely clear i think at the moment my ideal solution would be what i said in the tobuscus thread, we have a subsection on the tobuscus page that says starting with 2 stud elevator sources unrelated to tobuscus were added to the siivagunner tobuscus meme while being the same meme still, and whether or not it's its own category doesn't matter that much but obviously uses of the unrelated sources that don't have any clear ties to the overall trend would not be counted, so each source would have to be considered in the context of their external popularity (aka P&F DS: pretty much none, BAA and EHH: a little but probably most uses are related without explicit ties minus some exceptions that should be obvious, MTMYP: probably most uses are not related unless explicitly tied)
it seems they want toby to have his own presence on the channel beyond also being the core of this so it would make sense but im also split because the trend for this specifically is big
"Tobalphinehhpoop" refers to a specific group of sources which nominally consists of the following:
- Tobuscus ("I CAN SWING MY SWORD!", "NUGGET in a BISCUIT!!", "Subscribe!" jingle, etc.),
- "Be an Alpha" from ZOMBIES: The Re-Animated Series, which is also a meme on VvvvvaVvvvvvr,
- the soundfont of Phineas and Ferb games for the Nintendo DS,
- the internet meme "EHHHHHHH EH EH EH", and
- "Music That Makes You Poop" by Musical Magician.
these 5 disparate sources, which otherwise have no relation to one another, have been used together as a group in several rips on SiIvaGunner. they first appeared in "2 STUD INVASION - REGRETEVATOR" in October 2024, and have continued to appear in rips since then, including medleys. the group was initially only featured in rips by Heboyi, but others have used it since it gained popularity. rips related to the group don't always contain all members (Tobuscus, "Be an Alpha", and Phineas and Ferb in particular appear more consistently), but the main idea of the group still remains throughout all of the rips.
the name "Tobalphinehhpoop" has been used officially in "SiIva Direct 12.19.2024" and a few album tracks: "THIS IS VANILLA LAKE IF IT WAS TOBALPHINEHH-POOP š" (Thickmas), "The Tobalphinehhpooppet", "tobalphinehh poopshrooms help idk", and "Mad Poo Mewbuscus and the Alphinehh's Curse" (Volume Nightfall). the cover of Volume Nightfall also references the 5 members of the group.
I believe this group of sources has become notable enough to be considered a meme. for a rip to be considered as featuring the meme, I propose that it must feature at least 3 of the sources listed above, which would make 29 related rips as of now.
playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMrHVnRF3VkqOtcxDaZc0ceXSLvwlP85o
could you explain how their current list sections would be translated? will they remain unchanged and grow indefinitely with a "see also" to the meme category added below, or will the bits relevant to this meme be removed and relisted onto the category?
I'm thinking the latter. relist videos relevant to the meme in the category and leave the current list sections only for rips which aren't counted as TAPEP
though i would like to look into further formats of category listing for memes like this.
what do u mean by two way table? I would also like a format better than five bullet point lists
thats š ±ļøringe
trying to figure out a way to get around this in my brain because I have a lot of thoughts on points brought up in this thread but I don't want to make it look like I'm just trying to make the wiki do my bidding
Should be a rips referencing category, similar to Athletic Doctor, Wii Shop Bling, and Triple-Q, which also comprise of rips featuring multiple sources together that do not count individually. This also means it won't have a dedicated page. While Athletic Doctor and Triple-Q obviously have non-meme pages, in the case of Wii Shop Bling, the page Wii Shop Bling was redirected to Main Theme - Wii Shop Channel. I would normally suggest that Tobalphinehhpoop redirect to 2 STUD INVASION - REGRETEVATOR, but Heboyi said the rip was fasttracked and isn't actually the first Tobalphinehhpoop rip. It's still probably the best option unless Heboyi wants to say which rip was the actual first, but I will suggest alternatively that if the Tobuscus meme proposal passes, we could redirect it there, since Tobalphinehhpoop will probably have to be discussed there in some capacity no matter what.
I don't think rips referencing 2 STUD INVASION necessarily makes sense to do because while it is the "first" time it appears, referencing that isn't the point of the tobalphinehh joke.
unless Heboyi wants to say which rip was the actual first
Originally the first two terraria rips were going to roll out first (Underground Corruption then Jungle). Both of these rips don't actually include all 5 sources in each one and also include a bunch of other random sources which would make making this a rips referencing category an even worse option
I think I'm going to put on this. I'm trying to objectively think as like a regular fan and I'd still call it a meme. Maybe putting it on tobuscus's page or whatever would be a good choice in the future, but like as long as it's specifically documented and not just made a reference to a specific rip
Making it a rips referencing category does not have to mean that we're claiming it's a reference to a specific rip
I think there's been some confusion. The category would be "Rips referencing Tobalphinehhpoop". The only functional distinction is that it doesn't have a meme article.
This is weird, because we barely have any categories like this, but based on what those categories are, it's more similar to those.
I think there's been some confusion. The category would be "Rips referencing Tobalphinehhpoop". The only functional distinction is that it doesn't have a meme article.
Even the lack of an article could probably be subject to change, because the first two "referencing" categories are like that because the thing already has a page. The third, Wii Shop Bling, got redlinked after its creation, but since there was precedent to not do that (Triple-Q and Athletic Doctor are not counted as memes... yet), I redirected it to the article "Main Theme - Wii Shop Channel" (there is also another thing on the wiki where usually if rips reference a mashup pairing that existed before the channel, we just call it a reference to the first rip that featured it). There wasn't really any consensus on this, but I think we have to figure out if we want to call Triple-Q a meme, and this is probably getting out of the scope of this thread.
I think there's been some confusion. The category would be "Rips referencing Tobalphinehhpoop". The only functional distinction is that it doesn't have a meme article.
y'know I'm fine with that actually, except for the lack of an article. but that's not a defined rule anyway
matches the concept of the meme better and basically boils down to just a different name for the category lol
like how it's more of a concept than a defined meme
Also memes are ideas and do not necessarily have a defined structure. Memes are referential and you can refer to a meme in an infinite number of ways
Final Tally
(78.6%)
- Arthur101
- Stump
- bruno
- N
- coolguy
- Samantha
- ThisGreenDingo
- Corb
- Mick
- paper
- Heboyi
(21.4%)
- TurretBot
- RickHenrique
- Fezaki
Decision: Accepted!