SiIvaGunner Wiki:Meme discussion/Log/11th: The Mine Song
This is a definitive thread over proposing The Mine Song, a Lazytown song frequently used in Season Mine. Allow me to explain as to why.
The Mine Song, as what previously said, it's a song from Lazytown episode, "Dear Diary". Being an adapted version of "Nenni Níski)" from the 1996 play Áfram Latibær!, it's Stingy's favorite song related to him "owning everything".
By around 2016, in the same year as "We Are Number One" gain a big reception as a meme, The Mine Song recieved the same threatment, mostly appearing in the "X but Y" videos. But it would gain more attention thanks to Stingy taking over SiIvaGunner channel and the channel's popularity since Season 8.
The first "appearance" of the track was being indirectly referenced in "Main Menu - Pokémon Stadium (Pirate)", in which the rip is a parody of the Russian Pokémon anime intro in the similar matter as "FFG - Pokemon Stadium On Snes?" by ColoniaContraAtaca. With Stingy appearing by the mismashed lyrics section "Cucuia X quero suquinho de junho" in reference to Stingy owning the month of June.
The actual first featured appearance of the trck would be "Title Theme - Mario's Time Machine (NES)", during the Back to the Future Day. The track then would be featured/referenced in "Overworld (Versus Mode) (Beta Mix) - New Super Mario Bros." and "Carnival Night Zone (Act 1) (Xbox Live Arcade) - Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles"; being in small appearances like with other Lazytown tracks.
The song would then take off and frequently featured in the "Start of Season Mine" event, with Stingy taking the role as the main channel hoster after the release of "[AUDIOLOG: 14:09, RENTAL_STORAGE_FACILITY]". This marks the second Lazytown meme from the channel since We Are Number One all the way in 2016, and it's since been appearing, with some noticeble things:
- Majority of the rips featuring the track is often mashups or arrangements of the track.
- "The Mine Song" would be frequently ripped (with only 9 rips as the release of this thread)
- The release of the fake track, "SEQ_MINE", in which is a custom arrangement of "The Mine Song" in the Nintendo DS soundfont that would be frequently ripped during and after the "Start of Season Mine" event. Alongside other fake tracks following the same pattern (This in question also has a FLP release for anyone to make similar arrangements of it).
- Just like with WANO, "The Mine Song" recieved a fake game called as "Stingy's Treehouse", in which services to make arrangements of tracks in the style of The Mine Song.
- Often (or sometimes) paired or referenced with other tracks that Stingy originally owned before Stingy owning all content.
And in a final note: Thanks to Stingy taking the event, Lazytown would frequently being more referenced than just WANO, unlike previous seasons that only appeared rarely.
With all of the previous failed threads, "The Mine Song" should be considered as a meme status for the wiki, specially since it's still being featured and being the main face of the Season Mine as a whole (like how "Magolor's Shoppe" became somewhat frequent when Joke-Explainer take as a channel hoster); as well the many factors mentioned above and almost hitting the main frequently ripped track status.
This will be a definitive threat to consider the track as a meme, and I can say for certain that the track should be a meme since the event ended.
...and also this thread is owned by Stingy :(
we haven’t closed the burning desires thread yet so this might just be the opportunity for mine song to win
Counterpoint: Burning Desires will be closed first while The Mine Song gonna be the second closed
Forwarded:
SEQ_MINE - LazyTown (DS) (Unreleased)The ORIGINAL project file for FL Studio 21.2 Rip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq_RjrWOEaA Platform: SiIvaGunner
Needs dBlue Crusher on the Master, this is not included in the project file!Settings on dBlue Crusher: Reduction: 3 samples, BitDepth: 8.00 bitNO credit wanted for this
May this be the last time I have to support this damn song.
Fake game, fake track, being used nearly daily. I don't think there's a point in pushing this off any longer.
Counterpoint: Burning Desires will be closed first while The Mine Song gonna be the second closed
for simplicity’s sake here’s the release of SEQ_MINE mentioned above
Well, it shouldnt be too bad then Other original tracks couldve have a similar matter of a flp release if they're public
erm its an event source so its not a meme
Fair points about it being implemented in other ways like SEQ MINE and it being this major event in the first place and for this long. Also it's been long enough at this point.
I think this proposal adequately argues why this isn't just an event source. I see it like "The Noble Haltmann" from the Voice's takeover, where it began as a CCC-specific event meme, but became a proper meme over the channel's lifetime, even after the Voice was ousted as a channel host
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pretend that Sportacus is here
We're already pushing the limit on the "Each vote should be accompanied by a sentence of agreement or disagreement with the proposer's points" rule, but this might the one that puts it over the edge lol. Please at least put a word instead of an emoji as your sentence of agreement
third times a charm lets do it
turned redacted bruh idc cuz wow the takeover has seemingly ended, if je just comes back and it goes to season 8 status quo then it can be locked as an event thing
we haven’t closed the burning desires thread yet so this might just be the opportunity for mine song to win
I reiterate my previous assessment, and if it was an "event meme" I don't care given the influence and association it has had
If you are gonna vote neutral its probably better to undo your vote netrual does basically nothing it just messes with the avrage
im not gonna change my vote yet cause it already had so much influence and i dont see it actually leaving normal rips soon
same sentiment as listed above
im not gonna change my vote yet cause it already had so much influence and i dont see it actually leaving normal rips soon
If you are gonna vote neutral its probably better to undo your vote netrual does basically nothing it just messes with the avrage
I will laugh my ass off if after 3 times trying to make it a meme the takeover ending makes it not pass again
But like this was definitely a big enough event its fine to become a meme in my eyes
erm its an event source so its not a meme
erm its an event source so its not a meme
Shoot my joke is real now
erm its an event source so its not a meme
perall
u said this about thick of it and guess what got more rips after chrismtas
I will remain consistent and only vote for jokes that are currently memes, not will be memes
it would be hype to speculate merry fnaf christmas song will be used a lot near the end of the year and open a proposal basedo n that
it's gonna have the fourth thread just to make this damn song as a meme
<a:kaboom:1077998307424612463> I waste my time to make the song as a meme only for Stingy leaving it
im just as sad tbh i was hoping for year long and not the cringe baby robot for anothe ryear
so still passing rn but any oppose will stop that
how do u run the math that fast brh
this is a pretty deserved switchup tho at least ppl were bold enough to change their mind instead of just pass it cuz its the 3rd time
Corb the very first thing you did upon seeing everything was undoing your vote like sure its fair but you didnt even take like 3 seconds or anything its insane
but we are probably deleting corbsman regardless
Before the fiasco, my argument would be something like this.
What changed since the last (failed) meme discussion? More days since "Start of..." event? Still not convinced.
And then this happens. At least you don't need a year as retrospect.
Also, regarding what you overlayed, while it's comprehensive, I don't think it would change things looking that this facts should be considered since the first meme discussion. Oh, and the whole "event sources are not memes" thing.
Oh I haven't already voted. It's more than an "event meme" and I don't like that term regardless because its constantly proven wrong. It's had prevelant use and Season Mine was just normal schedule for like a pretty good chunk and Mine Song was just highly ripped. I think it's pretty suffice to say that Mine Song rips will continue without me saying that as some sort of leak. It's made a huge mark.
Will keep this support for now unless my mind is changed
mine song is an event source and theme song of a [currently] one-off character/channel host
something being the main source of an event IS on its own relevant towards being a meme
i think "event sources" in general as a concept kind of sucks
i guess the only way people would change their minds on the subject is if the mine song started being ripped out of season mine
You could say Inspector Gadget was an event meme but you all know how that turned out. This was like more than a month and it's not even like Gadget week because half of it was just normal rip schedule.
for the most part, a meme that is only used as a major source in 1 or 2 events and almost nowhere else does not really have anything to write about that is useful outside of the event pages
but it is now a primary source in 2 back-to-back events so its at least somewhat justified
not gonna change my vote still but this proposal is probably just gonna end up failing on principle
but outside of that, only relative usage compared to other claimed sources is useful. thick of it was used a lot which is extra points towards being a meme
Me seeing this thread about The Mine Song to fall for the third time: :holding_back_tears:
thick of it and tobuscus were pretty weird to claim but maybe they just rly wanted their rips to go up
You could say Inspector Gadget was an event meme but you all know how that turned out. This was like more than a month and it's not even like Gadget week because half of it was just normal rip schedule.
This system isnt for predicting the future its rly better to go with what we have and we have is a theme song for what was a temporary event
there are still 5 more days left of the proposal, if there is another few rips using the joke before it closes I will change back
everyone in the thread is pretty upset abt the event not lasting all year basically and i relate
thats why i said its pretty impressive that ppl were willing to change their vote despite this being the third thread
I assume burning desires and mine song will not stop getting used we can always come back with more context
it just feels kind of shitty that there was so much buildup to mine song being a meme
honestly I just hate the overall "It's a event meme, so shouldn't count", specially with sources that are clealy used more despite being event exclusive
like i said in meme discussion apart of why this system exists is so things dont jump the gun
at least this is a good example of "systems have flaws"
tommy votedfor trump 3 times in a row
honestly I just hate the overall "It's a event meme, so shouldn't count", specially with sources that are clealy used more despite being event exclusive
my take is more nuanced though, the amount of usage is really good for the case, but there is no point in making it a meme if it ends up getting no relevant usage after the takeover (admittedly highly unlikely)
tbh this system got trialed and then became permanent without adjusting any of the issues which is kind of crazy
it is a major event joke but it still needs SOMETHING else to actually get pushed into meme status imo
mine song is probably just gonna be soft banned for a while (meaning rips of it won’t be accepted for quite a while)
mine song is probably just gonna be soft banned for a while (meaning rips of it won’t be accepted for quite a while)
narratively itd be weird for je to use it
joke explainer sees we enjoyed the stingy takeover and decides to continue using the jokes from it
well je is meta so she will just acknowledge that the story arc was fake and that rippers make the rips and not stingy
No offense but when have we ever done that
I thought that was a thing for the longest time
i also thought that sometimes but its moreso that they make lore for why things r banned (after the fact) rather than following lore
Proto was one of those things that was seemingly impossible to make any good rips with at the time so it was like yeah that can be banned fuck Proto until well yknow
There’s probably a lot of rips where the ripper just put the jetsons in there impossible to hear
No offense but when have we ever done that
i think one of the jetsons 9/11 rips got remade later so its probably not hard banned
thankfully i dont make rips so i cant
mine song is probably just gonna be soft banned for a while (meaning rips of it won’t be accepted for quite a while)
Also mine song is the medley thing so its already showed up after the takeover
There’s probably a lot of rips where the ripper just put the jetsons in there impossible to hear
It could be used in lore
well if this proposal fails itll influence rippers to use it despite that they werent going to
well the jokes have pretty much not been used at all since the event ended
im changing to nothing on the premise
ill just go ahead and make it harder to pass
Could you elaborate on what you mean? To me this seems like this is just making the vote "harder to pass" since the vote seems controversial. That isn't the intended way to use the meme discussion system. You should vote based on your own reasoning, not the meta vote structure.
It may help to reword your vote to be less meta and less cynical.
i said i was opposing on the same premise that made me remove my support in the first place
i said i was opposing on the same premise that made me remove my support in the first place
Which premise? Your struck message just says "im changing to nothing on the premise"
the fact that it is an event source the thing that the conversation was about when i posted the message
Understood. That part of the conversation was difficult to parse since a lot of the discussion was about folks changing their votes and saying half-joking non-sequitors
Forwarded: turned redacted bruh idc cuz wow the takeover has seemingly ended, if je just comes back and it goes to season 8 status quo then it can be locked as an event thing
Will keep this support for now unless my mind is changed
I dislike having to do this for such a crucial part of Season Mine itself - but the main point I've seen outlined and reflected by many is, to me, the largest indicator of it not being a meme.
- The track itself has not been ripped outside of Season Mine as of writing; meaning with Season Mine's classification as an event, The Mine Song is an event meme by proxy.
this logic would also apply to other sources prominently ripped during the event itself, I imagine
well the jokes have pretty much not been used at all since the event ended
yeah so don't just say it's only an event song we don't know for sure yet
example beautiful girls
There’s literally been no rips of it since SM
medley rips usually contain memes!!
medley rips usually contain memes!!
That was specifically a kirbtune meant to feature all of season mine sources so unfortunately it's not enough on its own
how long has season mine been over for
That was specifically a kirbtune meant to feature all of season mine sources so unfortunately it's not enough on its own
I think this applies to every event source meme they aren't gonna be used right away after the event
Unless.... Stingy is a meme....
when im a prince and clean up become memes too tht multisource page will be hype tho
stingy by himself being considered a meme and all of the songs associated with him being merged to his page would be really funny
mans not hot is cooked
Final Tally
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(65%)
- RickHenrique
- N
- coolguy
- bruno
- ThisGreenDingo
- Heboyi
- Arthur101
- Super10ZX
- Virivren
- CYLITM
- ironwestie
- ArchieGoldRips
- Grambam36
(35%)
- TurretBot
- Corb
- Mick
- Hans
- Fezaki
- trey
- Stump
Decision: Rejected… again.